It's happening again. More shootings in Baton Rouge.

"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck) 07/17/2016 at 11:18 • Filed to: None

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Update: It appears to have been two shooters. Two officers confirmed dead.

Update: It isn’t clear if it was one or two shooters. Whoever did it is still on the loose. Seven, possibly eight officers shot. From one of the videos it sounds like automatic weapon fire.

Update: There may have been three shooters. The police just got an update from a witness claiming there were three shooters. Witness said one went into the bushes behind the fitness center.
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Update: Another witness claims it was a gunfight between a few individuals and then the police showed up.

Update: Now the count is three officers shot, three dead. There’s no information about the suspect(s). They are asking everyone to stay home until the situation is resolved.

Update: Theyare now saying that there was only one shooter and he was shot and killed by responding officers. Three officers are dead. Three others are wounded. They say that the incident is over and they are working through the investigation.

Update: Shooter identified as Gavin Long from Kansas City, Missouri.

Update: these are the officers lost.

Nibby > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 11:22

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brb moving to Canada

LongbowMkII > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 11:32

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Brb. Building a bunker.

This sucks. I hope they find and try the killer.

McMike > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 11:43

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Short article is short.

Was it a robbery/crime based shooting, or was it an ambush?

Svend > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 11:45

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I had a whole thing typed in my mobile to post here in place of this post and yet I had the most disheartening question in my mind, “what’s the point?”. You see I could say something about the climate of fear of individuals in fear for their lives at routine stops by police, or the police officers fear of being shot either at a traffic stop or walking down the street because there are a few bad people and there are a few bad police who have created a massive climate of fear but it will be agreed by a few and stamped all over by others and nothing would of come from it.

So all I’m going to say is, keep safe, be aware of your surroundings, if something looks like it has the ability to go pear-shaped, walk away. Be safe.

ttyymmnn > McMike 07/17/2016 at 11:48

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That's my question. It sounds a bit like the former.

whoarder is tellurium > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 11:49

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RIP to the fallen.

This war on police has got to stop.

TheRealBicycleBuck > McMike 07/17/2016 at 11:51

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Looks like a planned attack. Original call was for someone walking down the street brandishing a weapon.

Steve in Manhattan > Svend 07/17/2016 at 11:55

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There are some states where it just makes no sense to go at this point. Alabama, Ohio (RNC might be a bloodbath) Louisiana, Texas, Florida, and on and on. They send idiots to Congress, and often get more money from the federal government than they send. I will spend no money in those states, and as they give more gun rights and pass anti-LGBT laws, they should not be surprised when they lose convention and other business to saner locales.

Matt Nichelson > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 12:11

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Been watching it on CNN. Stay safe over there. Things are going to shit more and more by the day. At least we haven’t had anything happen in Mississippi yet, surprisingly. We had a worry yesterday on our local news that 500 gang members were supposed to be coming to our town last night or today, but thankfully nothing has came of it as of yet. Hopefully it will stay that way.

Svend > Steve in Manhattan 07/17/2016 at 12:14

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And that’s a crying shame because you are one country divided by so many things that needn’t be that way. Many of the things aren’t even things.

Such as not letting a transgender individual use a toilet of the sex they recognise themselves to be. I mean THEY ARE GOING TO THE TOILET for christ’s sakes. Hell if a stranger comes to my door in discomfort and says “hey, you don’t know me but can I use your toilet?”, I’d say “ye’, right this way!”, yet people trying to ban others using a public toilet, WTF!

EDIT: I had typed more but people get the point.

yamahog > whoarder is tellurium 07/17/2016 at 12:25

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Fortunately police deaths by shooting are trending downwards, and as of last year, number less than traffic deaths.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetw…

TheRealBicycleBuck > Svend 07/17/2016 at 12:34

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The specific example cited is a problem because a) public toilets are shared; b) there have been plenty of assaults that have happened in public restrooms; and c) there have already been cases where people took advantage of the transgender rules to take pictures of women and children.

Many of the places I go have “family” restrooms where one person can go in and lock the door. I see this as a perfectly acceptable solution to the problem.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Steve in Manhattan 07/17/2016 at 12:42

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The risk of geting killed by someone else with a gun is really, really small, especially if you aren’t young and male. The majority of gun deaths are suicides.

Even with all of this happening a few miles north of me, I still have no fear of living here.

Svend > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 12:45

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A woman could easily be attacked by another woman in a women’s toilet just as much as a man could be attacked in a mens toilet also like any born male who recognises themselves as a female an is wearing female attire walks into a mens toilet.

Any body doing any illegal activity should be arrested and that’s the way it’s always been. Do something about the people breaking the law, not the people trying to go about their daily lives.

Steve in Manhattan > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 13:23

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I’d say my chance of being shot here in NYC is greater than where you are. At the same time, your chance of getting shot in Australia is far lower simply because they enacted sensible gun control laws. Until we do something, you’ll continue to see dead third graders when someone decides to shoot up an elementary school.

yamahog > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 13:24

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Weird how I’ve been using women’s restrooms my whole life and the biggest peeping tom nuisance by far is other people’s children. We should definitely ban children from public restrooms.

Mercedes Streeter > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 13:42

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Yes, the PERFECT solution is to punish trans people because people who aren’t trans assault people in bathrooms.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Steve in Manhattan 07/17/2016 at 14:03

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You may be right. Buffalo is one step above Baton Rouge on the list. You don’t live in Buffalo, do you?

As for gun control, let’s be truthful here. Guns are illegal in NYC, but you are more worried about getting shot there? You should also note that Australia’s downward trend started in the mid/late ‘70s, ten years before Australia’s law changed.

http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/hom…

Less than one half of one percent of all deaths by guns are mass shootings.

Before you go after “assault” rifles, keep in mind that the two biggest mass shootings were done with 9mm and a 0.22 caliber pistols.

Finally, we’ve now seen a terrorist use a truck to kill nearly three times as many people (84) as our worst mass shooting (32).

Steve in Manhattan > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 14:24

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Guns are not illegal here, just more difficult to get. And the screen name is “Steve in Manhattan” for a reason.

Sensible gun control would work. It’s been proven again and again.

Mercedes Streeter > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 15:11

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Our worst mass shooting actually killed 49 people. American terrorists have also done worse in the past. The OKC bombing killed 160+

*Not taking a side, just some more sad facts. :(

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 15:49

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And involved in criminal activity, which increases your risk massively of being killed or injured by another.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > yamahog 07/17/2016 at 15:55

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Stop using facts, they get in the way of the fun of fear-mongering

/s

yamahog > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/17/2016 at 16:02

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If the FBI gets to declare that killing 49 people at a gay bar isn’t a hate crime , I’ll be damned if we refer to a war on police as anything but a myth.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > yamahog 07/17/2016 at 16:12

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I couldn’t be with you any more on that. Living in the midwest and constantly dealing with regressive rhetoric is mentally exhausting.

yamahog > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/17/2016 at 16:14

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same. the politics and the pizza are the only things about Michigan that make me miss NY.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Steve in Manhattan 07/17/2016 at 16:31

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Gotcha on the name. I spent several weeks in the area, but it all looks like one big city.

The laws in NYC are much more restrictive, yet they have little effect on the murder rate. Here in Louisiana, it’s legal to open carry without a permit and guns of any type do not have to be registered. There are restrictions at government buildings, schools, and anyprivate property where the owner doesn’t want weapons on the property.

In NYC, all guns must be registered, all person’s carrying must have a permit whether it is concealed or not, and loaded “long” guns cannot be carried by anyone, permit or not.

http://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/n…

TheRealBicycleBuck > Mercedes Streeter 07/17/2016 at 16:39

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The website (NYCPost) where I pickedup the number hasn’t been updated. I was trying to make the point that there are other, much easier ways to kill lots of people.

My mom worked two blocks from the OKC bombing and was there when it happened. A lot of the glass was blown out of her building and rained down on the parking lot where she parked, but none of it hit her car. The concussion wave did warp the body of the car. Despite several attempts at repair, it never sealed properly again and the interior got wet every time it rained.

Mercedes Streeter > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 16:49

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Despite all the gun violence and opposing opinions how to solve it, I think we can all be thankful that bombings aren’t a common thing in the USA anymore.

Steve in Manhattan > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/17/2016 at 17:38

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I’m comfortable with the gun laws here. Everyone should get a background check. And, to be fair, I also live in an area (Upper West Side) that’s among the safest in the 5 boroughs - lots of middle-aged Jews like me - so I have few worries. While there have been shooting around here, the things I worry about most was a rash of subway slashings and people pushing other people in front of a train.

I don’t question someone’s right to own a firearm - that’s not what the 2nd Amendment says, but fine by me. Just make it so crazy people don’t get guns and no one gets guns that turn a shooting that kills 5 people into one that kills 45 people. That’s common sense.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Steve in Manhattan 07/17/2016 at 18:20

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The guns aren’t the problem. When you take them away, people who want to kill people resort to other methods - knives, blunt objects, planes, trucks, and trains. By the way, the number of people killed with things other than guns outnumbers those killed with guns.

You are also forgetting that any gun that holds more than one round can be reloaded so quickly that the number of rounds it holds at a time is a moot point. I think people get confused about it because their only experience with firearms is what they see in the movies and the amount of media coverage for mass killings grossly outweighs individual killings, making them seem much more common than they really are. Scaremongering is the right word for this.